Bill Mounce

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Thursday, October 19, 2017

What is the Minimum It Takes to Get into Heaven?

Life is a journey. Life is a hike from our City of Destruction to the Celestial City. But no matter how the journey unfolds along the path, it has a beginning point. In Jesus’ imagery, the journey begins at the gate. In my imagery, the hike begins at the trailhead.

Everyone’s trailhead is a little different. For some, we started the journey on our mother’s knee at a young age. For others it starts after a difficult time in the teenage years, and perhaps in the midst of those difficult times you met a friend who started to walk with you. For others the trailhead is much later, after you have sampled life and found it lacking. Our trailheads can often look quite different.

However all of our trailheads have many things in common, and today I want to talk about what we all have in common. As you start your journey as a follower of Jesus, or if you are just thinking about it, or if you are walking with a new traveler, it is important that we have the same understanding of what the trailhead looks like; otherwise it will become confusing on down the path.

One of the defining moments in my life was when I was in graduate school. I was waiting for the bus, and a young coed asked if I was one of those “Divinity” students. (That’s what it is called in Scotland.) I said yes, and she asked if I were a Christian. I said yes, and she responded, “What is a Christian?” Much to my shame, I had never thought through a quick and decisive answer. I was working on a Ph.D. but had not thought through this most important of all questions. The bus came in two minutes and she got on.

I didn’t go to the office that day. I went back to the dorm and started reading and praying, working on an answer I could give in two minutes. I spent much of the next day looking for her on campus but never found her.

So what would you say? Remember, you know nothing about the person, and you can see the bus coming. You have two minutes. You don’t want to say too much, but you don’t want to say too little You want to say enough so that if she responds, either now or later, then she truly is a follower of Christ. But you don’t want to say too much and make the decision harder for her.

What would you say? Yes, the trailhead at the beginning of our spiritual journeys are all somewhat different, and yet there must be a common thread running through them. There must be the non-negotiables.

For example, John tells us that if you deny the reality of the Incarnation, that Jesus came in the flesh, you are the spirit of the antichrist (1 John 4:2-3). Does our two minute answer include the dual nature of Christ?

Jesus also says that we should count the cost of following him (Luke 14:26-28).

Paul says a person must “confess with  your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in  your heart that  God raised him from the dead” (Rom 10:6), and yet Jesus says there will be many at the judgment seat who did many miracles in his name and yet were not true followers (Matt 7:22ff.).

I made a nuisance of myself for several years by asking everyone I could, especially academics, “What is the minimum it takes to get into heaven?” It was always interesting to me which of my academic acquaintances could answer the question, and who couldn’t.

Some replied, “That is the wrong question.” My answer always was, “Someone you will never see again just asked you the question, and the bus will be there in two minutes. Go!”

Some would still respond, “It can’t be answered in two minutes. It is the wrong question.”

My response? “You now have less than two minutes.”

How would you respond? The question isn’t rhetorical or academic. It is life and death.

Comments

Mankind lives in a sinful world which separates us from God. Jesus Christ reconciles us back into God's presence, love and forgiveness, and we need all the love and forgiveness we can get. I am a Christian, I believe and accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, and everlasting love and forgiveness is my destiny.

In two minutes: A Christian is some who (a) Loves Jesus Christ, (a) Believes what he says about gaining eternal life (c) who changes his life ( (words, thoughts and deeds) to live like He did.

There are two things that put all men on equal ground. All have sinned, and Faith. A Christian knows he has sinned against God, and a Christian believes that the Father has given His only begotten Son for the forgiveness of those sins.

I think Martin Luther does a remarkable job essentially answering this question in his explanation of the Apostle's Creed in the Small Catechism. He begins with describing the first article of the Creed, that we believe in God the Father, creator of heaven and earth, and what that means to us. Then he describes the second article of the creed, showing how Jesus redeemed us from sin. He ends with the explanation of the Holy Spirit, describing how through the Holy Spirit we are brought into the faith, and how the holy spirit sustains us in our faith. It is very concise, yet I think it covers the essentials. If you haven't read it, or haven't read it in a while, I recommend giving the Small Catechism a look, particularly the section on the Apostle's Creed.

This is especially good. Thanks.

What is a Christian? Someone who is born again (or from above). Jhn 3:3, 5 NIV 3 Jesus replied, "Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again." ... 5 Jesus answered, "Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. Why do we need to be born again? Because we are dead in trespasses and sin – Eph 2:1-5 NIV 1 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions--it is by grace you have been saved. How do we become born again? Whoever receives Him. - Jhn 1:12-13 NIV 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God-- 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. How do we receive Him? Jhn 16:24 NIV 24 Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.

Already been done. Recite the Nicene Creed. Takes about 2 minutes. And if saying “catholic”offends then use “universal” instead since those two words mean the same thing.

You must believe (trust) that Jesus died for your sins and resurrected on the third day, all according to the Scriptures.

I think about when Jesus had the encounter with Nicodemus in John 3. You must be born again to see the Kingdom of God! Unless you are born clean and in the Spirit, you cannot enter heaven. You must believe in Jesus Christ, by faith alone, to enter the kingdom of God. The person needs to see their depravity that they are in, and that only by God's grace are they saved. You are praying and planting a seed.

Maybe topic is idle, but I'd answer: It takes absolute righteousness before God. God is absolutely holy and perfect, and will tolerate no amount of sin in his presence (which sin includes any failure on your or my part to love God with complete heart, soul, mind, and strength, and our respective neighbors as ourselves). If we fall short in any way, God will not accept us.

To this Question I would reply in once sentence in under 10 seconds: Christian is an individual who have a daily personal & living relationship with Christ Jesus, as his Lord & Saviour & who is always willing to forsake all things for Jesus sake! Then pause & wait for reply, being ready to reply any further Qs... God bless you all!

God has shown us by Jesus life, death and resurrection that HIS LOVE REACHES BEYOND EVERY SIN AND FAILURE. He longs to grow a personal friendship with us. So why do we avoid God? Perhaps we don’t see God as relevant or maybe because of our fear, pride or shame. SIMPLY TALK WITH HIM. Imagine He is stood beside you. Tell Him how you feel, whatever is on your mind and whatever is going on in your life. You can even scream at Him - He understands. Just ask, “If you are real God, show yourself to me”. You may feel uncomfortable at first but over the coming days and weeks, our experience has been that we began to notice changes in our lives as we continued talking with Him. DISCOVER MORE ABOUT HIS LOVE FOR YOU, through reading the books in the Bible that tell about Jesus life. Perhaps start with Mark’s gospel, then read John’s, Luke’s and Matthew’s gospels, each bringing the life of Jesus from differing perspectives. Read them as a story, not looking for formulas, rituals and rules. As you read, simply ask God to help you understand. You MAY experience some ‘side effects’, for example, but NOT LIMITED to A sense of shame. (Admit what you have done wrong and ask God to help you accept his forgiveness). An awareness of happiness, awe, peace, relaxing in God’s love. A hunger to know more about Jesus. A desire to forgive others and put things right. A compassion for others and promptings to do random acts of kindness. A longing to share your experience with others. A need to find others who have also discovered a friendship with God, to encourage each other. Remember you are special and individual. Jesus knows you better than you understand yourself. Begin your journey of a lifetime and beyond, with God today.

The minimum is faith (trusting) in Jesus Christ as God's Son, who died in our place. We are relying on the work that Christ did in our place. That is crucial. If anything is added to that, even "confessing that Jesus is Lord," which does not mean to make Him Lord of our lives, we are adding to the work of Christ. He did it all. We do nothing. Romans 10:9, 10 was shared. IMO the first portion is best translated as "If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus..." Also, this is a Hebrew poetic statement (chiasm). It is essentially a sandwich. If you confess with your mouth... ties in with "and confesses with his mouth and is saved." "Believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead" ties in with "for man believes in his heart and is justified." IMO the inner portion of the sandwich has to do with justification (being declared to be righteous) and the outer lines to do with sanctification or the overall salvation, in general. The innermost statement is simply, "you will be saved," which tells us what this Jewish chiasm is about - being saved. But we are too quick to assume that salvation (SOTERIA or SWZW) is about justification.

This does seem to be a poor question. Whether it is intended or not the question imposes something upon Christ and his Word. I understand, and agree, people will ask this question. But any good student of theology, and especially pastors like myself, know that many questions people ask are not the ones they need answered. This question is oddly eisegetical in nature, to answer it on the surface is giving it undeserved credibility. Exegetically, one only needs to look to the Biblically rich Apostles Creed, and find within it a simple expression of the Gospel. It is at once Trinitarian and Christ-centered, cross focused. To respond to this question without a friendly or pastoral critique leaves the hearer to believe there truly is a minimum THEY must do, which unhelpfully whisks them away into the realm of works righteousness. Instead, we can be better students of the Scriptures and ask rhetorically (after all the bus will be here soon) what the MAXImum one must do to be a Christian. What is the maximum? Everything, be perfect in everything, be sinless--this is what you must do. A believer and non-believer both recognize the weight of such a requirement, and can be given to at least understand the Biblical condemnation under the Law of God, that is, no one is good and perfect but God alone. The Good News is that Christ covers our sins, declares us righteous, and calls us his beloved children by grace though faith. Jesus has done the maximum, by his death and resurrection, and in this great mercy of God there is no minimum or maximum required. Faith is not the Christian's possession to quantify in minimums and maximums--faith is a gift of the Holy Spirit who tabernacles within us. Faith then is not a scaled quantitative entity, but a perfect gift of God, which entered our hearts as His own Word softened our hard hearts and filled us with a transcendent (outside of ourselves) hope. The Apostles Creed can easily, article by article (i.e. via each Person of the Holy Trinity) proclaim that there is no minimum, only the maximum. And that the maximum requirement of heavenly gain is found in Christ who perfectly accomplished all faithfulness in his death and resurrection--and he was sent by the Father to you, that in the Holy Spirit you may be made alive eternally through the Son who exchanged his perfect life for your imperfect life, you give him your sin (read passively: Jesus takes your sin) and Jesus gives you his Kingdom.

So you are saying that if you had two minutes to answer the coed's question, you would tell her that she has to beleive in the "holy catholic church" to be a Christian?

The Question is about salvation and one must turn from a life of sin and follow Jesus as a disciple learning from him how to live a holy life of discipleship. Jesus is God the Son. He became one of us and accomplished all that was necessary for full forgiveness of our sin and our complete acceptance as a child of God. By repentance and faith we are made one with Christ who through the work of the Holy Spirit will enable us to learn to be a faithful disciple of Jesus Christ.

A Christian is someone who receives eternal life by believing in Jesus Christ, the personification of God's love and forgiveness. Eternal life does not literally mean life for ever. It is a qualitative term that means the life of the age - referring to the age of God's reign. It is a life of profound satisfaction, and a life of pleasure for ever more. It is the life that is experienced in part now, but which will be experienced fully at God's appointed time when our bodies are transformed into immortal spiritual bodies. Eternal life may seem elusive now, but we must grasp it, and hold on with all our might, and never let it go. Jesus Christ is eternal life.

A Christian is someone who wholeheartedly believes that they have violated God's standard for your life, they deserve God's judgment, but in His mercy and grace God allowed Jesus, who is the eternal Son of God, to take their judgment on Himself and give them the righteousness of Jesus through faith in Jesus' atonement. Jesus rose from the dead to demonstrate his power over death and to offer them eternal life. Belief is NOT intellectual agreement to a set of facts about Jesus, but wholeheartedly embracing Jesus as the only means of salvation and as the Lord and Master of that person's life. A Christian stakes all eternity on the truth about who Jesus is and what He has accomplished for them. A Christian is determined to live for Him by understanding and living out His Word with His people.

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